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Re: Please identify the language

Postby denko » 2017-02-04, 20:26

Hello Boys and Girls

New to this forum and I NEED REALLY BIG HELP ! I have this photo with two languages (my guess Chinese and Japanese) I need someone to writhe this symbols for me in word (any text file) file so I can copy/paste them. If someone can do this for me I will be eternally grateful. :) :)

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-04, 20:47

Yes, that's right. The first half is (or the first two lines are) in Simplified Chinese; the rest is in Japanese.

Here's what it says:

操作方法:
要解门锁, 将卡放在传感器旁边如图所示
使い方:
カードをタッチしてください

Hopefully, you should be able to copy that from here.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Osias » 2017-02-05, 0:24

But is it Mandarin? All those software with both "complicated Chinese" and "simplified Chinese" are in Mandarin or some kind of koiné?
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-05, 0:27

Osias wrote:But is it Mandarin?

Yes.
"complicated traditional Chinese"

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Osias » 2017-02-05, 0:53

vijayjohn wrote:
"complicated traditional Chinese"


Sigh.

You can't joke on Unilang.
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-05, 1:16

Jokes can be harder to identify on the Internet than IRL. ;)

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Osias » 2017-02-05, 2:11

On Unilang is harder. If I joke in English or Spanish I got corrected, and in Portuguese people fail to understand it's a joke, they think they're misreading me.

Except when joking in Portuguese to other Portuguese speakers, like today; and when Loqu was a regular.

(Did I use the ";" correctlly?)
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-05, 3:34

Osias wrote:On Unilang it's harder. If I joke in English or Spanish I got get corrected, and in Portuguese people fail to understand it's a joke, they think they're misreading me.

Except when joking in Portuguese to with other Portuguese speakers, like today; and when Loqu was a regular.

(Did I use the ";" correctlly?)

You mean except when joking with other native speakers of Portuguese? You did that today? The last time I remember seeing you do that on UL was with Prowler yesterday.

And yeah, we're a bunch of language nerds who still don't know you that well yet, so...:P

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby denko » 2017-02-05, 11:07

vijayjohn wrote:Yes, that's right. The first half is (or the first two lines are) in Simplified Chinese; the rest is in Japanese.

Here's what it says:

操作方法:
要解门锁, 将卡放在传感器旁边如图所示
使い方:
カードをタッチしてください

Hopefully, you should be able to copy that from here.


Thank you, this is very helpful. Thanks a million :)

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Osias » 2017-02-05, 13:58

vijayjohn wrote:
Osias wrote:On Unilang it's harder. If I joke in English or Spanish I got get corrected, and in Portuguese people fail to understand it's a joke, they think they're misreading me.

Except when joking in Portuguese to with other Portuguese speakers, like today; and when Loqu was a regular.

(Did I use the ";" correctlly?)

You mean except when joking with other native speakers of Portuguese? You did that today? The last time I remember seeing you do that on UL was with Prowler yesterday.

And yeah, we're a bunch of language nerds who still don't know you that well yet, so...:P

On my timezone it was Saturday both times. I think.

Two things:
1 - You don't have to know me very well, you just have to notice I'm here since a couple of years and my English doesn't such (much) so some things are probably intentional.
2- In the specific case of "traditional Chinese" in software, they all got written "traditional Chinese" literally, no "chinês tradicional" in Portuguese. (I mean, except when it's in Chinese itself), so there was no possibility of mistranslation of my part.
3 - I like lists.
4 - Is "mistranslation" acceptable? It was not a joke. My spell checker underlines it.
5 - I'll actually try to make better jokes next times.
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Vlürch » 2017-02-08, 0:01

Osias wrote:4 - Is "mistranslation" acceptable? It was not a joke. My spell checker underlines it.

"Mistranslation" is like the most common word prefixed with "mis-" after "misspelling", so I have no idea why your spellchecker would underline it. Then again, a lot of spellcheckers have a very small number of recognised words and would be better called shellpeckers. That was supposed to be funny, but it turns out that it's too much of a stretch to suggest a link between the comprehension of the spellchecker and the size of its vocabulariser's penis, especially when done in a way that doesn't really explicitly suggest the connection but only implies it through an allusion to a turtle-like penile action and use of the word "small".
Osias wrote:5 - I'll actually try to make better jokes next times.

Humour is subjective, though, you know. Anyone telling another person that their sense of humour is shit should be arrested by the joke police. I'm right here! C'mon, arrest me! Why aren't you arresting me? I made a bad joke! Nobody's laughing, why am I not behind bars already? ARREST ME!!!!

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Osias » 2017-02-08, 0:39

People on TV interviews use to laugh about some very bad jokes, it's unbelievable!
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby JPerry » 2017-03-09, 20:53

Can anyone identify this? I was thinking Italian, but an Italian friend of mine says that it's not.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Osias » 2017-03-10, 2:23

I can assure you it's not Brazilian Portuguese.
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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-03-10, 2:43

I think it really is Italian; I can make out almost all of the words. (I'm not sure about the grammaticality of the Italian). However, the reason why even native speakers may not be able to identify it as such is because it's written in handwriting that to me at least seems so oddly difficult to decipher. (Same thing with that German note JPerry posted earlier in this thread).

I can decipher the following: Imparate a rispettare il ______ uomo. Come mai non c'è un giorno dedicato all'uomo? FEMMINISTI Merda...! CAPRE!!! I can't make out the word before uomo in the first sentence, and at first, I thought it said nuovo, not uomo, and couldn't make out the very last word in the text.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Vlürch » 2017-03-10, 4:55

vijayjohn wrote:I can't make out the word before uomo in the first sentence

I first thought it was guerre, but it looks like guere. Maybe it's a misspelling? Or could it be genere?

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-03-10, 5:31

Genere might work there (though I'm no native speaker, of course, so who knows).

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby IpseDixit » 2017-03-10, 8:04

JPerry wrote:Can anyone identify this? I was thinking Italian, but an Italian friend of mine says that it's not.

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I don't know what kind of Italian friend you have, but it is Italian.

Imparate a rispettare il genere umano. Come mai non c'è un giorno dedicato all'umano? FEMMINISTI Merda.! CAPRE!!!

Learn to respect humankind. How come there isn't a day to celebrate the human being? FEMINISTS [are] Shit.! IGNORANT (lit. capre - goats)!!!

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vijayjohn wrote:However, the reason why even native speakers may not be able to identify it as such is because it's written in handwriting that to me at least seems so oddly difficult to decipher. (Same thing with that German note JPerry posted earlier in this thread).


I guess handwriting can vary a lot from country to country, to me it doesn't look odd, it actually looks relatively easy to decipher. Keep in mind that, when handwriting, we tend to mix up italic and the "normal" non-cursive script (don't know what it's called) a lot, whereas I'm under the impression that in Anglo-Saxon countries the norm is only use the non-cursive script. Plus, a hack to better understand an average Italian handwriting is remember that <m> is often written as a kind of lower case omega <ω>, and <n> as something very similar if not indistinguishable from <u>.

I can decipher the following: Imparate a rispettare il ______ uomo. Come mai non c'è un giorno dedicato all'uomo? FEMMINISTI Merda...! CAPRE!!! I can't make out the word before uomo in the first sentence, and at first, I thought it said nuovo, not uomo, and couldn't make out the very last word in the text.


It says umano.

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby Vlürch » 2017-03-11, 5:51

IpseDixit wrote:genere umano
humankind

Ohhhh... I thought it meant "nice guy", like how women hate "nice guys" because a lot of guys calling themselves "nice guys" are actual misogynists that go on and on about how they're gentlemen for not raping women, how women secretly enjoy rape and how the only reason they don't rape every woman they see is that they don't want to give them free sex, because they think they're entitled to have sex with any woman at any time but that no woman should ever be allowed to choose who she has sex with, and who genuinely believe in a patriarchy that will have their back when they finally snap and go on a random killing spree. You know, the "nice guys" like Elliot Rodger...

...and I mean, with the crossed-out star of David in a note about feminism, implying a connection between feminists and Jews (which is a part of the wider conspiracy theory that Jews are out to destroy western civilisation), I don't get how it could be an actual equality-invoking message... but you're the native speaker, so. :P

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Re: Please identify the language

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-03-11, 7:36

Maybe it's a message along the same lines as "all lives matter," though, so not really a message for equality.


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