linguoboy wrote:Kristjan wrote:Hard to say, could the German origin be somehow false? In Turkish it is
soba meaning stove.
The problem is that I have no idea where the Turkish word comes from, or is it just simply Turkish?
According to
this online etymological dictionary, the Turkish is a borrowing from the Hungarian. I'll see if I can't consult a print dictionary to confirm.
Here's what my Hungarian Etymological Dictionary has to say on the matter:
szoba [1221* (?), 1300**] Loanword, cf. medival Latin
stuba "bathroom, steamroom; room, chamber", Old High German
stuba, stupa 'heatable room, bathroom', Middle High Geman
stube 'same', French
étuve 'bathroom***', Old Russian istъba 'residence; bathroom'. These words go back to a Latin or Germanic source, cf. Latin *
extupa 'room for use as a steamroom' < Latin *
extupare 'steam out' or Old High German
stioban 'to spray <steam>' ~ Old English styman 'to steam'. The donor language of Hungarian
szoba may either have been medieval Latin or German, for the omission of word-initial
t cf.
szobor****, zarándok****** first suspected occurrence
** first confirmed occurrence
***WTF, it's not bathroom, it's steamroom/sauna
****statue
*****pilgrim