The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

This is our main forum. Here, anything related to languages and linguistics can be discussed.

Moderator:Forum Administrators

User avatar
Yasna
Posts:2672
Joined:2011-09-12, 1:17
Country:USUnited States (United States)
Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Yasna » 2016-09-24, 13:49

linguoboy wrote:(For instance, if an executive got a bonus for performance before it was discovered this was the result of trickery rather than actual hard work.)

Watching Warren eviscerate Stumpf was some of the best television I've seen in months. He may escape this ordeal with his millions intact, but at least he'll live in infamy for the rest of his life.
Ein Buch muß die Axt sein für das gefrorene Meer in uns. - Kafka

User avatar
linguoboy
Posts:25540
Joined:2009-08-25, 15:11
Real Name:Da
Location:Chicago
Country:USUnited States (United States)

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby linguoboy » 2016-09-24, 15:19

Yasna wrote:
linguoboy wrote:(For instance, if an executive got a bonus for performance before it was discovered this was the result of trickery rather than actual hard work.)

Watching Warren eviscerate Stumpf was some of the best television I've seen in months. He may escape this ordeal with his millions intact, but at least he'll live in infamy for the rest of his life.

I'm so used to people using "Drumpf" for "Trump" these days that when I first saw Stumpf's name in print, I thought it was the same phenom, not his actual name.
"Richmond is a real scholar; Owen just learns languages because he can't bear not to know what other people are saying."--Margaret Lattimore on her two sons

User avatar
mōdgethanc
Posts:10890
Joined:2010-03-20, 5:27
Gender:male
Location:Toronto
Country:CACanada (Canada)

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby mōdgethanc » 2016-09-24, 19:01

linguoboy wrote:I'm so used to people using "Drumpf" for "Trump" these days that when I first saw Stumpf's name in print, I thought it was the same phenom, not his actual name.
I, too, was momentarily stumpfed and thought the same thing.
[ˈmoːdjeðɑŋk]

vijayjohn
Language Forum Moderator
Posts:27056
Joined:2013-01-10, 8:49
Real Name:Vijay John
Gender:male
Location:Austin, Texas, USA
Country:USUnited States (United States)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-09-24, 19:50

:lol:

User avatar
Michael
Posts:7126
Joined:2009-07-21, 3:07
Real Name:Mike
Gender:male
Location:Oak Park, IL
Country:USUnited States (United States)

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Michael » 2016-09-30, 2:23

linguoboy wrote:]I'm so used to people using "Drumpf" for "Trump" these days that when I first saw Stumpf's name in print, I thought it was the same phenom, not his actual name.

I also thought that "Drumpf" was merely a play on words, akin to "Shitlary" for Sec. Clinton, but it was actually Donald's grandfather's original surname.

Speaking of Trump, here's a word I learnt from a Vox article writing about his peculiar oratory style:
[flag=]en[/flag] hypotaxis embedding of clauses within clauses (which is something he can't seem to do)
American English (en-us) Neapolitan from Molise (nap) N Italian (it) B2 Spanish (es) Portuguese (pt) French (fr) Greek (el) Albanian (sq) B1 Polish (pl) Romanian (ro) A2 Azerbaijani (az) Turkish (tr) Old English (en_old) A1
„Çdo njeri është peng i veprave të veta.‟
Every human being is hostage to their own deeds.

User avatar
Osias
Posts:9754
Joined:2007-09-09, 17:38
Real Name:Osias Junior
Gender:male
Location:Vitória
Country:BRBrazil (Brasil)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Osias » 2016-10-09, 2:43

not even close
2017 est l'année du (fr) et de l'(de) pour moi. Parle avec moi en eux, s'il te plait.

User avatar
linguoboy
Posts:25540
Joined:2009-08-25, 15:11
Real Name:Da
Location:Chicago
Country:USUnited States (United States)

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby linguoboy » 2016-10-09, 4:34

Michael wrote:
linguoboy wrote:]I'm so used to people using "Drumpf" for "Trump" these days that when I first saw Stumpf's name in print, I thought it was the same phenom, not his actual name.

I also thought that "Drumpf" was merely a play on words, akin to "Shitlary" for Sec. Clinton, but it was actually Donald's grandfather's original surname.

Or it wasn't. But saying it was certainly makes for a more entertaining segment on a comedy programme.
"Richmond is a real scholar; Owen just learns languages because he can't bear not to know what other people are saying."--Margaret Lattimore on her two sons

User avatar
Car
Forum Administrator
Posts:10953
Joined:2002-06-21, 19:24
Real Name:Silvia
Gender:female
Country:DEGermany (Deutschland)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Car » 2016-10-09, 11:41

linguoboy wrote:
Michael wrote:
linguoboy wrote:]I'm so used to people using "Drumpf" for "Trump" these days that when I first saw Stumpf's name in print, I thought it was the same phenom, not his actual name.

I also thought that "Drumpf" was merely a play on words, akin to "Shitlary" for Sec. Clinton, but it was actually Donald's grandfather's original surname.

Or it wasn't. But saying it was certainly makes for a more entertaining segment on a comedy programme.

Yep, some German sources I read don't mention that at all. E.g. I read this article some time ago and while searching, came across this one. One article actually mentions it, though, but not as Donald's last name. Seriously, there are tons of articles about his ancestors.
Please correct my mistakes!

IpseDixit

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby IpseDixit » 2016-10-30, 9:45

Yesterday I learned some Swiss Italian words:

[flag=]it-ch[/flag] natel - [flag=]it[/flag] cellulare - cell phone
[flag=]it-ch[/flag] bilux - [flag=]it[/flag] freccia - blinker
[flag=]it-ch[/flag] rolladen - [flag=]it[/flag] saracinesca - shutter
[flag=]it-ch[/flag] classatore - [flag=]it[/flag] raccoglitore - binder
[flag=]it-ch[/flag] riservazione - [flag=]it[/flag] prenotazione - reservation (as in a reservation at a restaurant)
Last edited by IpseDixit on 2016-10-31, 6:49, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Car
Forum Administrator
Posts:10953
Joined:2002-06-21, 19:24
Real Name:Silvia
Gender:female
Country:DEGermany (Deutschland)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Car » 2016-10-30, 14:04

IpseDixit wrote:[flag=]it-ch[/flag] natel - [flag=]it[/flag] cellulare - cell phone


It's originally a Swisscom brand.

[flag=]it-ch[/flag] rolladen - [flag=]it[/flag] saracinesca - shutter

Roll(l)aden is the German word for it (the spelling with triple L is the new one); funnily enough the German Wikipedia mentions they also call it Store in Swiss standard German.
Please correct my mistakes!

User avatar
OldBoring
Language Forum Moderator
Posts:6152
Joined:2012-12-08, 7:19
Real Name:Francesco
Gender:male
Location:Milan
Country:ITItaly (Italia)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby OldBoring » 2016-10-30, 15:12

Really? I thought rolladen was also a brand.
After IpseDixit's post I watched some RSI (the Italian Swiss Radio company) radio programs online that talk about the Swiss Italian language. They said that one reason brand names are used so much in Switzerland is because they don't need to be translated into the three/four national languages and so are preferred in advertising and business.

vijayjohn
Language Forum Moderator
Posts:27056
Joined:2013-01-10, 8:49
Real Name:Vijay John
Gender:male
Location:Austin, Texas, USA
Country:USUnited States (United States)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-10-30, 23:55

Classatore sounds like a calque on French classeur.

User avatar
linguoboy
Posts:25540
Joined:2009-08-25, 15:11
Real Name:Da
Location:Chicago
Country:USUnited States (United States)

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby linguoboy » 2016-10-31, 2:36

IpseDixit wrote:[flag=]it-ch[/flag] bilux - [flag=]it[/flag] freccia - car winker

"Blinker", "indicator", or "turn signal".
"Richmond is a real scholar; Owen just learns languages because he can't bear not to know what other people are saying."--Margaret Lattimore on her two sons

IpseDixit

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby IpseDixit » 2016-10-31, 6:48

linguoboy wrote:
IpseDixit wrote:[flag=]it-ch[/flag] bilux - [flag=]it[/flag] freccia - car winker

"Blinker", "indicator", or "turn signal".


lol sorry.

User avatar
Car
Forum Administrator
Posts:10953
Joined:2002-06-21, 19:24
Real Name:Silvia
Gender:female
Country:DEGermany (Deutschland)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Car » 2016-10-31, 10:50

OldBoring wrote:Really? I thought rolladen was also a brand.

No, just a normal German compound.
Please correct my mistakes!

User avatar
OldBoring
Language Forum Moderator
Posts:6152
Joined:2012-12-08, 7:19
Real Name:Francesco
Gender:male
Location:Milan
Country:ITItaly (Italia)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby OldBoring » 2016-10-31, 17:47

IpseDixit wrote:[flag=]it-ch[/flag] bilux - [flag=]it[/flag] freccia - blinker

I googled this, and it seems it means "fari abbaglianti" - brights, high beams; or according to other sources "lampeggiamento degli abbaglianti" - headlight flashing; with the verb "biluxare/fare i bilux".

Car wrote:No, just a normal German compound.

Yeah. So it's not clear if the word was borrowed directly from the normal German word, or spread to non-German Switzerland through the brand Rolladen. :wink:

User avatar
Car
Forum Administrator
Posts:10953
Joined:2002-06-21, 19:24
Real Name:Silvia
Gender:female
Country:DEGermany (Deutschland)
Contact:

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Car » 2016-11-01, 12:19

OldBoring wrote:
IpseDixit wrote:[flag=]it-ch[/flag] bilux - [flag=]it[/flag] freccia - blinker

I googled this, and it seems it means "fari abbaglianti" - brights, high beams; or according to other sources "lampeggiamento degli abbaglianti" - headlight flashing; with the verb "biluxare/fare i bilux".

It seems to be another brand name:
"The 1924 Bilux bulb was the first modern unit, having the light for both low (dipped) and high (main) beams of a headlamp emitting from a single bulb."
"This system was first used with the tungsten incandescent Bilux/Duplo R2 bulb of 1954, and later with the halogen H4 bulb of 1971."
Both from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp

Car wrote:No, just a normal German compound.

Yeah. So it's not clear if the word was borrowed directly from the normal German word, or spread to non-German Switzerland through the brand Rolladen. :wink:

Ah, I see.
Please correct my mistakes!

User avatar
Michael
Posts:7126
Joined:2009-07-21, 3:07
Real Name:Mike
Gender:male
Location:Oak Park, IL
Country:USUnited States (United States)

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Michael » 2016-11-02, 4:40

[flag=]nap[/flag] avvantà to boast, gloat
American English (en-us) Neapolitan from Molise (nap) N Italian (it) B2 Spanish (es) Portuguese (pt) French (fr) Greek (el) Albanian (sq) B1 Polish (pl) Romanian (ro) A2 Azerbaijani (az) Turkish (tr) Old English (en_old) A1
„Çdo njeri është peng i veprave të veta.‟
Every human being is hostage to their own deeds.

User avatar
razlem
Posts:2291
Joined:2011-01-10, 3:28
Real Name:Ben
Gender:male
Location:San Francisco
Country:USUnited States (United States)

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby razlem » 2016-11-20, 6:54

[flag=]en-us[/flag] ombudsman

an official appointed to investigate individuals' complaints against maladministration, especially that of public authorities
American English (en-us)::German (de)::Standard Spanish (es) Swedish (sv) Mandarin (zh)::Choctaw (cho) Finnish (fi) Irish (ir) Arabic (ar)
Image wia wi nehas-kolwatos lae angos! Check out my IAL Angos
Image Contributor to the Houma Language Project
I have a YouTube channel! I talk about languages and stuff: Ben DuMonde

User avatar
Dormouse559
Language Forum Moderator
Posts:6939
Joined:2010-05-30, 0:06
Real Name:Matthew
Gender:male
Country:USUnited States (United States)

Re: The last word of your mother tongue you have learnt ?

Postby Dormouse559 » 2016-11-20, 21:49

razlem wrote:[flag=]en-us[/flag] ombudsman
Such a funny word shape. NPR posts little reports by its ombudsman from time to time. It's interesting to get a glimpse at how the organization sees itself, especially on controversial issues.
N'hésite pas à corriger mes erreurs.


Return to “General Language Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 14 guests