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Re: True false friends

Postby Olinguito » 2017-01-15, 15:50

vijayjohn wrote:Turkish (tr) kitabı - the book (direct object)
Persian (fa) کتابی ketâbi - a book

Don't they both come from the Arabic كتاب?

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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-01-16, 0:40

Olinguito wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Turkish (tr) kitabı - the book (direct object)
Persian (fa) کتابی ketâbi - a book

Don't they both come from the Arabic كتاب?

The words for 'book' in both languages do, but the false friend part is that the Turkish word means the book and the Persian one means a book.

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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-01-30, 18:14

 (en) stage
 (nl) stage probation, apprenticeship, internship
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Re: True false friends

Postby Leopejo » 2017-01-30, 19:19

linguoboy wrote: (nl) stage probation, apprenticeship, internship

and many other languages, originally from French. Like Italian 'stage', with the French meaning... but often English pronunciation :D , or Polish 'staż'

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Re: True false friends

Postby voron » 2017-01-31, 16:19

Leopejo wrote:and many other languages, originally from French.

Russian стаж, Turkish staj

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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-01-31, 16:32

voron wrote:
Leopejo wrote:and many other languages, originally from French.

Russian стаж, Turkish staj

In English, the word exists in a Frenchified form, but narrowed to refer only to a culinary apprenticeship. (I've also heard and seen the hypercorrect form stagé.)
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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-03, 5:32

linguoboy wrote: (en) serviette =  (en-us) napkin
 (fr) serviette towel

American English (en-US) napkin = British English (en-UK)South African English (en-ZA) serviette
British English (en-UK)South African English (en-ZA) napkin = American English (en-US) diaper

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Re: True false friends

Postby Dormouse559 » 2017-02-11, 21:07

 (en) locket - kind of pendant
 (fr) loquet - latch
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Re: True false friends

Postby Michael » 2017-02-12, 8:04

I can't remember whether I posted about this one before, but here I go anyways:

 (az) çirkin ugly, syn. of kifir (Persian: زشت zeşt)
 (fa) چرکین çerkin dirty, syn. of کثیف kəsif (Azeri: çirkli)
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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-16, 5:05

English (en) Chianti
Sicilian (scn) chianti - plants

Portuguese (pt)Spanish (es) planta - plant (organism), sole (of foot)
Portuguese (pt) planta - floor plan
Spanish (es) planta - plant (factory), floor/level (of high building), sole (of footwear)
Basque (eu) planta - aspect

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Re: True false friends

Postby Michael » 2017-02-17, 5:13

 (az) əlaqə contact, connection (Persian: تماس، ارتباط tamās, ertebāt)
 (fa) علاقه elāqe interest (Azeri: maraq)
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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-17, 17:40

Michael wrote: (az) əlaqə contact, link (Persian: تماس، ارتباط tamâs, ertebât)
 (fa) علاقه elâqe interest (Azeri: maraq)

Urdu (ur) علاقه ilāqa - area, region

Romani (rom) khel- (verb stem) dance (khel! - dance! (2SG informal))
Urdu (ur) کھیلنا / Hindi (hi) खेलना [ˈkʰelna] - to play (کھیل/खेल [kʰel] - play! (2SG intimate))

Azerbaijani (az)Turkish (tr) dil - language, tongue
Kurdish (ku) dil - heart

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Re: True false friends

Postby Dormouse559 » 2017-02-21, 1:28

 (en) ground-to-ground - (of a missile) fired from the ground at a target on the ground
 (fr) terre-à-terre - down-to-earth
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Re: True false friends

Postby iodalach93 » 2017-02-22, 15:21

 (ru) пища - food
 (it) piscia - urine (volg.)
 (en) Please correct my mistakes.  (fr) Corrigez mes erreurs, s'il vous plaît.  (sv) Snälla, rätta till mina fel.  (ru) Исправляйте, пожалуйста, мои ошибки.  (ja) 間違いを正してください。  (ar) تصحّحوا أخطائي من فضلكم.  (el) Παρακαλώ διορθώστε τα λάθη μου.  (ga) Ceartaígí mo chuid earráidí, le bhur dtoil.  (fa) لطفا اشتباهاتم را اصلاح کنید.

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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-02-27, 22:50

 (cy) heol road
 (br) heol sun (=  (cy) haul)
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Re: True false friends

Postby voron » 2017-02-27, 23:10

vijayjohn wrote:Azerbaijani (az)Turkish (tr) dil - language, tongue
Kurdish (ku) dil - heart

This one tripped me a few times. It is used in Kurdish songs a long so the meaning 'heart' kind of grew on me and then I am talking to someone and Turkish and they say smth like 'dil öğrenmek' (to learn a language) and for a second I am like 'what? to learn a heart?'

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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-28, 1:32

voron wrote:
vijayjohn wrote:Azerbaijani (az)Turkish (tr) dil - language, tongue
Kurdish (ku) dil - heart

This one tripped me a few times.

This one trips me up a lot because Hindi has the same word for 'heart' and it's everywhere in the movies.

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Re: True false friends

Postby iodalach93 » 2017-02-28, 10:48

And the source of all these troubles is  (fa) دل /del/, isn't it? And it's not even the main word to say "heart" in Farsi any longer!
 (en) Please correct my mistakes.  (fr) Corrigez mes erreurs, s'il vous plaît.  (sv) Snälla, rätta till mina fel.  (ru) Исправляйте, пожалуйста, мои ошибки.  (ja) 間違いを正してください。  (ar) تصحّحوا أخطائي من فضلكم.  (el) Παρακαλώ διορθώστε τα λάθη μου.  (ga) Ceartaígí mo chuid earráidí, le bhur dtoil.  (fa) لطفا اشتباهاتم را اصلاح کنید.

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Re: True false friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2017-02-28, 13:19

iodalach93 wrote:And the source of all these troubles is  (fa) دل /del/, isn't it?

Or rather Middle Persian dil.

EDIT: This is a false friend I just saw pointed out on the Turkish forum.

Azerbaijani (az) sümük - bone
Turkish (tr) sümük - booger

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Re: True false friends

Postby linguoboy » 2017-03-01, 21:08

 (en) truth
 (cy) truth flattery, nonsense, rant
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