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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby OldBoring » 2016-01-20, 15:23

Impressing! Are words with final -n common in Ladin?

Idk if these count as true friends:

Qingtianese (Wu) (wuu) (Qingtianese) [i] [+ classifier]: this
 (ta) idhu: this

E.g. 伊头 [i.dəɯ] (=“this [cattle]” or “this kind of things”) vs idhu [id̪ɯ].

Qingtianese (Wu) (wuu) [a] [+ classifier]: that
 (ta) adhu: that

E.g. 阿头 [a.dəɯ] (=“that [cattle]” or “that kind of things”) vs adhu [ad̪ɯ].

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-02-09, 2:30

Tagalog (tl) tatlo - three
Swahili (sw) tatu - three
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Koko » 2016-02-09, 3:02

vijayjohn wrote:
melski wrote:A cool one I've just discovered in the The Person After Me (multilingual) thread :

 (lld) ei - yes
 (wls) ei - yes

Japanese (ja) [Kansai dialect] ええ ee - yes; good

Is ええ really just the Kansai dialect? It was taught to us in our textbook which deals with contemporary Japanese in general.

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-02-09, 3:24

Koko wrote:Is ええ really just the Kansai dialect? It was taught to us in our textbook which deals with contemporary Japanese in general.

Maybe not. I don't know whether it can ever mean 'good' in standard Japanese, though. It can in Kansai.

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Koko » 2016-02-09, 3:27

Oh, ok. Yeah, I'm not sure about the meaning of "good."

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-02-09, 8:32

Bahahah! I just realized what happened: I confused the Kansai meaning with the Standard (or Tokyo or whatever) dialect meaning! :rotfl:

In Kansai, ええ means 'good' (or 'proper' or 'all right') and apparently not 'yes'.

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Koko » 2016-02-09, 9:00

Either way, Kansai dialect is one of the weirdest: ahou in Kansai is the playful/friendly way of calling someone an idiot, and baka is the offensive, whereas in the Tokyo dialect it's the exact opposite :P

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-02-09, 18:13

Koko wrote:Either way, Kansai dialect is one of the weirdest

Is it, or are you just not familiar enough with varieties of Japanese/Japonic languages yet? ;)

This reminds me of how when I see stuff in Lakshadweep Malayalam, which is one of the most divergent varieties of Malayalam there is (if it can even be considered Malayalam at all at this point), it honestly makes me laugh sometimes just because it looks insane when compared directly to the standard language. My favorite example is something like this:

English translation: He had been staying at our house.
Standard Malayalam: [ɲəˈŋəɭʊɖe ˈʋiːʈɪl əˈʋɛn ɪɾʊn̪n̪ɪʈɔɳˈɖaːjiɾʊn̪n̪u].
Lakshadweep Malayalam: [əˈŋa ˈoːɖa oːn lət͡ʃɯˈnaːna].

I get the impression that is mostly a case of some crazy-ass reduction going on there. (Of course, it only looks crazy when you conveniently forget that this variety has been geographically separated from mainland Kerala for about a thousand years :P).

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Koko » 2016-02-09, 23:54

vijayjohn wrote:Is it, or are you just not familiar enough with varieties of Japanese/Japonic languages yet? ;)

I know of those that merge /i/ and /u/, I obviously have some familiarity of the Ibaragi dialect, but none of those are as weird to me as Kansai. You underestimate my research :hmpf:

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-02-10, 0:05

So you haven't looked at any of the Ryukyuan languages/varieties yet? :P

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Koko » 2016-02-10, 0:10

Are those really Japanese dialects though? I've only ever seen them described as separate Japonic languages.

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-02-10, 0:24

In Japan, I think they're officially treated as dialects. That's why I said "languages/varieties." They definitely don't seem to be mutually intelligible with the mainland varieties, though. They don't necessarily even sound that much like them. :lol:

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Koko » 2016-02-10, 0:43

I personally don't count 'em as dialects, therefore I didn't consider them in my statement and still won't consider them. :nope:

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby linguoboy » 2016-03-01, 2:27

 (en) screech
 (ga) scréach screech, shriek

Naturally these words aren't pronounced the same. Irish ch represents [x] and éa is only [ia] in certain dialects (e.g. West Cork). I imagine both words are originally onomatopoeic and that accounts for the similarity.
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby cHr0mChIk » 2016-03-08, 1:32

1.
 (it) "dare" = to give
 (sr) "dati" = to give
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2.
 (it) "mettere" = to put/to place
 (sr) "metnuti"/"metati" = (archaic) to put/to place ("staviti" in modern Serbian)
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3.
 (ir) "provare" = to try
 (sr) "probati" = to try
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4.
 (it) "sedere" = to sit
 (sr) "sedeti" = to sit
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5.
 (it) "stare" = to stay/to stand
 (sr) "stajati" = to stand/to stay
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6.
 (it) "sognare" = to dream
 (sr) "sanjati" = to dream
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7.
 (it) "suonare" = to ring
 (sr) "zvoniti" = to ring
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8.
 (it) "urlare" = to yell/to scream
 (sr) "urlati" = to yell/to scream
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9.
 (it) "vedere" = to see
 (sr) "videti" = to see
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10.
 (it) "volere" = to want
 (sr) "voleti" = to love/to want
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(please note that most of these Serbian verbs are similar, or the same in other Slavic languages)
وَقَالُوا لَن يَدْخُلَ الْجَنَّةَ إِلَّا مَن كَانَ هُودًا أَوْ نَصَارَىٰ ۗ تِلْكَ أَمَانِيُّهُمْ ۗ قُلْ هَاتُوا بُرْهَانَكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ
بَلَىٰ مَنْ أَسْلَمَ وَجْهَهُ لِلَّهِ وَهُوَ مُحْسِنٌ فَلَهُ أَجْرُهُ عِندَ رَبِّهِ وَلَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby vijayjohn » 2016-03-19, 6:46

English (en) one
Malayalam (ml) ഒന്ന് [ˈɔn̪n̪ɯ] - one

English (en) eight
Malayalam (ml) എട്ട് [ˈ(j)ɛʈɯ] - eight

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby suruvaippa » 2016-07-03, 6:14

 (en) alive / living

 (fi) elävä - living (adjective)
 (et) elav
 (hu) eleven
Native:  (en-us) C1:  (fi) A1:  (lt)  (et)  (ru)
Interested:  (smi-sme)  (ka)  (is)  (eu)

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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Michael » 2016-07-04, 23:04

 (sq) shtëpi house
 (el) σπίτι house
>  (grc) οίκος
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Michael » 2016-07-14, 14:48

 (sq) i,e qetë
 (en) quiet
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Re: Multilingual True Friends

Postby Michael » 2016-07-19, 17:31

 (sq) frikë fear, dread
 (en) freak

 (sq) mjaltë honey
 (en) malt

 (sq) i,e lehtë light, easy
 (en) light
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